Let’s analyse the logic of these two Powerbrains, Drs. David Ray Griffin & Steven Earl Jones.

Update August, 2008: The Cold Fusion Connection

(After all, they are foremost researchers)

Now, 19 Arabs – some trained at US Airforce Bases – hijacked 4 Big Boeings and flew them into the World Trade Centre Buildings 1 & 2, and the Pentagon. And one of them crashed in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. But the damage created was insufficient to melt steel, this being proved by the fact that it never happened before, and that the heat generated by jet fuel was insufficient to melt steel  ...

… and …

 … some of those who committed suicide are still alive …

… and …

… the reason that 3 of those Boeings made it to their targets was because of a Military Stand-down …

… and one of those 3 Boeings (that made it to its target) did not hit the Pentagon (i.e. did not make it to its target ... errrr ...) …

… and that somehow those hijackers, or their ‘handlers’, managed to rig the Towers with thermite, or thermate, or some derivative …

… and somehow, someone, or some group, managed to set it all off in conjunction with the impact of the planes.

Therefore

The hijackers were patsies. They were told to commandeer the planes. But they weren’t told they would be remote-controlled-flown into the World Trade Centre in order to be forced to die for … to die for … what? They weren’t abstemious Islamic Fundamentalists, according to these Powerbrains. They couldn’t have been. They were taught to fly at US Airforce Bases, and US Flight Schools. They were into cocaine, alcohol and Go-Go dancers, according to all “Truther” reportage.

So these 19 Arabs were going to pretend to hijack some planes for the kind US Government, and be paid handsomely for it, and didn’t know they were just about to die. Is that it?

And, in all that time, it never occurred to one of them that this might be a trick of some kind? It never occurred to one of them that their roles could have been undertaken by anyone. Anyone at all. Had these Arabs never heard of Arabs? Had these Arabs never heard of Osama bin Laden? Are Arabs stupid, or something? (Not, as far as I know. To the best of my knowledge they possess as much acumen as the next person).

And ... and ... and ... there's something else. Oh yes! Some of them didn't die! 

Well ... that's a bit ov a right ol' 'ow's yer farver, and no mistake! Innit?

Well, aarl go t' foot of aar stairs, aar David!

Let me try to get this straight Dr. Powerbrain #1. They hijacked remote-controlled planes, and flew them into the World Trade Centre Complex but, because they had been completely hoodwinked, they didn't actually die. Is that it?

They managed to do a "Satam Al-Suquami passport". With themselves. Is that it?

You know something? I find a problem with adding all that up.

Or did they know they weren’t actually going to die? Just that their names were going to be used? In that case, then why were they actually trained to fly, at US Flying Schools, etc.? Or were they actually trained to fly? What would be the point of wasting time training, when all one had to do was to say they had been trained to fly? Could this be more bullshit?

You know, could I be forgiven for wondering whether or not there were any hijackers at all? After all, it has been proved (by a real researcher, called Gary North) that there were no Arabic names on the Passenger Manifests. But … oh yes … there are videos of them at Logan & Dulles airports. Oh yes, that proves I must be crazy, because “the camera cannot lie”. Can it? No way!

Well, let’s gloss over my little brain-fuddled conundrum, shall we? (After all, these massive Powerbrains do, set let’s follow their fine example)

Let’s talk about the Twin Towers.

What was the point of the planes hitting the Towers? Well, obviously the awe-inspiring, gut-wrenching, spectacle, of course.

No, I’m asking what was the point in conjunction with the ‘thermate’ hypothesis? Would it have been so impossible to have set off bombs in the Towers, blaming Islamic infiltrators, and so on?

Does one not think that sudden large explosions, emanating for the Twin Towers on one fairly sunny autumn morning, with a lot of noise, and a massive amount of fire and smoke, and people jumping to their certain death, would not have been sufficiently awe-inspiring?

Well, it would have wrenched my guts, I know that.

And would that have not have been so much easier to blame on terrorists who have ‘got in under the US Security Shield’?

After all, 1993 was pretty awe-inspiring … even though it didn’t quite work the way intended. Consider the difference in planning complexity between the 1993 attempt and 9/11 with its planes. (FOUR of them!). It’s the difference between setting off a July 4^th firework and a Mars Mission.

Why did they need the planes, for ‘thermate’? Were the planes carrying the thermate?

And how did the impact of the planes not trigger the immediate destruction of the ‘thermate-pre-rigged’ building?

I mean, once a bomb goes off, it’s likely to trigger other bombs, in its immediate vicinity. Isn’t it? For that not to happen needs some very careful working out. And very careful positioning of the plane impacts. Doesn’t it?

Nothing can be left to chance. Otherwise the whole scheme, and the impact of that scheme, goes down the pan, doesn’t it?

But, I guess, in these computer-dominated days, it is all possible.

And, anyway, Powerbrain #2 (Steven Earl Jones) has demonstrated the effect of thermate, by presenting a film of two young men placing some on top of a car engine, and setting it off, to show what happens.

It only took about 5 minutes to destroy (melt) that entire car engine, so ... point taken Steven!

Now all we have to do is to scale up the car engine into an almost one-quarter–mile-high-110-storey building, and reduce the 5 minutes down to about 10 seconds. (And not worry too much about the concrete, toasted cars, unburned paper, and everything else).

Well, Powerbrains #1 & #2, I had a go at your so-called "9/11 Truth", and I'm afraid I can't make head nor tail of it. (But, of course, this may be because I'm particularly dense)

Was the thermate also planted in the cars, and the fire trucks as well? How on earth did that happen? Or is thermate capable of walking around, under its own steam? Is there a derivative called Migratory Thermate? (I mean, if that's the case, we can't be too careful, can we!?)

Does thermate (or a derivative) leave massive amounts of paper undamaged? Or are we in the realms of office paper with built-in fire retardants? 

Or is all this data something we should be turning a blind eye to?

Just like you do?

I will say it slowly enough for any Planehugging Truthling to understand.

There. Were. No. Planes. There. Were. No. Hi-. Jackers. There. Was. No-. Thing. To. Hi-. Jack. There. Was. No. Jet. Fu-. El. There. Was. No. Stand-. Down. There. Was. No-. Thing. To. Stand-. Down. For.

There. Were. Bombs.

There. May. Have. Even. Been. A. Bit. Of. ‘Reg-. Ular. Demo-. Lition’. To. Bring. Down. The. Base. Of. The. Tow-. Ers. In. Order. To. Create. Some. Deb-. Ris.

The. Tow-. Ers. Were. DEST-. ROYED. They. Did. Not. Coll-. Apse. They. Were. Blown. To. King-. Dom. Come. By. Some. Very. Pow-. Er-. Ful. ‘Black’. Tech-. No-. Lo-. Gy.

This "destroys the Truth Movement", does it? Errr ... but it's The Truth. How can The Truth possibly destroy a "Truth Movement"?

Surely a “Truth Movement” that doesn’t stick to the truth is an “UNTruth Movement”, because it is just replacing one pack of bullshit with another pack of bullshit?

Well done Dr. David Ray Griffin and Dr. Steven Earl Jones for managing to successfully substitute one pack of bullshit with another pack of bullshit!

"No-planes" cannot destroy your wonderful "Truth Movement", simply because there is no "Truth Movement" to destroy. 

Any possibility of a real "Truth Movement" has already slowly and insidiously been destroyed by the likes of you two, and all your "Truth Heroic" cronies. So you all make sure there has to be planes, so there can be hijackers, so there can be Arabs. By this means you ensure the Official Fantasy doesn't lose its fundamental basis, and, to prevent that happening, there must always be planes, no matter what. We wouldn't want the Official Fantasy to actually end up being fundamentally flawed, would we Drs. Powerbrains? "Inside Job" must always, ultimately, remain 'dismissible fluff', otherwise we would actually be rocking some kind of boat, wouldn't we? Can't let that happen, can we?

No? What is the essential core of the Official Fantasy? Answer: "Muslims". That allows "finger pointing", and everything follows on from there. Because "No-planes" says "We can prove conclusively, beyond any shadow of a doubt, there were no commercial airliners", that removes "hijackers", and thereby removes "Muslims". Drs. Powerbrain #1 & #2 cannot allow that to happen. That is why the screaming against "No-planes" reaches fever pitch, to the point of almost frothing at the mouth from their acolytes, their disciples. That is why so-called "9/11 Truth" is always gently guided away from anything that approaches the real truth.

Anything else is up for grabs. But we must have "Muslims", for "finger pointing".

All "No-planes" can do is to destroy their "Self-Manufactured Utter Bullshit Movement". (Hopefully, anyway. Certainly awareness of the TV Fakery hoax that was 9/11 has risen steeply, and the bullshit that is Powerbrains #1 & #2, has slowly - but surely - been destroyed over the last couple of years. And this is a continuing process, amongst those who discover they still have a functioning brain).

And, once those people understand that, there comes the immediate realisation that the media must have been fully complicit. Is it any wonder, therefore, that "9/11 Truth" generally gets such a bad press?

Oh! I see! It's "No-planes" that's the bullshit? Is it? Ummmm ... well ... it doesn't work like that, does it? Does it? When promulgating disinformation, isn't it the bullshit that must become prominent? While the real truth gets laughed at, dismissed, suppressed? Isn't that the way disinfo works? What's the point of disinfo that does not become, let's say for example, 'thermate-prominent'?

On the other hand, if "No-planes" became accepted, then - yes - it could be dismissed as disinfo. Couldn't it? The only problem with that little scenario is that "No-planes" fits the facts, all the facts, which would make it pretty hard to shrug off as disinformation. But that's another story. That's not the situation. We are getting there, but 'thermate' is still dominant at all the conferences, seminars (and with all the trolls).  

Truthlings have, for years, pushed buckets of 'evidence' under the noses of so-called journalists. And yet we still see the same tired old 'debunking' attempts - the same tired old platitudes trotted out. Even the most mild "hit pieces" still contain enough 'debunking' dressed up as 'alternative view'. (Reason for "mild": To kid you that you might be 'winning' ... when you are not actually winning anything at all).

9/11 was a TV Fakery hoax. The media is owned by the perps, and was fully complicit. The media will shaft you if they can (as, mentioning no names, one or two of you have found out). Everything that has happened since the 11th September, 2001 is fully explained this way.

9/11 was a slick Hollywood production snuff movie. Any pervert accused of watching a snuff movie could quite reasonably claim "I'm doing nothing more than everyone else in the world did, in the days following 11th September, 2001".

The only possible solution is to fully understand the hoax, and to pass it on to others. The solution is most certainly NOT to follow the (pre-ordained) "Truth Heroes".

 

Here’s an example of “The Thoughts of two Truth Heroes”

 

 

Now what, exactly, is Powerbrain #2 saying?

If there was such a disaster we are not to expect 'the authorities' to deal with it. They should not be responsible for collecting these test samples, and analysing them.

No, no, he says! WE ARE ON TO THEM! Ha! Ha! THEY CAN'T HIDE THEIR DIRTY DEEDS FROM US! You “volunteers” go out, with your Walmart Geiger Counters, and send your samples to me, Steven Earl Jones, Powerbrain #2 (and then I can make sure no-one else can analyse them, just like I did with my 9/11 samples). And then I will be in the position of feeding you even more beguiling bullshit. And William Deagle nods in agreement.

(Ummm ... what about the victims, Steven? You don't mention them. But you giggle about it a lot. Here, Steven, have one of your quick little giggles at the reviews)

And, what about the fact that your “volunteers”, poking about in the rubble, are more likely to be shot on sight, rather than anything else? Or become (what do they say) ‘hot’. I mean, Steven, maybe those “volunteers” don’t know exactly how to operate those Made-in-China Geiger Counters? Do you think that might, just, be possible?

And, do they post you these radioactive samples by First- or Second-Class mail? What do you think? Or should they use Recorded Delivery?

And you tell us that "We have learned that we can learn from the evidence". Gosh - that is a revelation, Prof. HardEvidence! I would never have thought of that. I would never have realised that "we have learned that we can learn ..." any more than I would have realised that "we can learn from the evidence". Am I nit-picking here? Well, actually not. For the simple reason that you omit to point out that the evidence you, personally, "have learned to learn from" ... is very limited in scope. Limited, in actual fact, to the point of being able to promote utter, complete, and total bullshit.

What do I mean by that? Prof. HardEvidence, your 9/11 samples came from a little old lady, in Manhattan, who had - by chance - not dusted a room in about 5 years since 9/11. What, precisely, was the source of that dust? Do you know? Can you prove anything? Can you prove it came from the Towers, as opposed to Building 7? No ... of course you can't. Prof. Hard Evidence, that dust could have come from anywhere on this entire planet.

Oh, you detected the presence of sulphur in some slag? And sulphur is the 'signature' of thermate? Oh really? I thought sulphur was the signature of sulphur. Is that not so? And also a signature for gypsum, used in the construction of plasterboard. You, know, that stuff that divides offices. And where was this slag? And what was the chain of custody of this slag? And how were you allowed access to it? Wasn't it all shipped to China, then? They saved a bit for you, then? Gosh, that was kind of them. And how do you tie it back to 9/11 after the a 5-year+ gap? Prof. Hard Evidence, that slag could have come from anywhere on this entire planet.

Let us never forget, Professor, how late in the day you arrived on the scene. And how much water had passed underneath the bridge in between times. You have a massive 'credibility with your samples' problem. And, without establishing this credibility (which you never, ever, do) one could quite reasonably say "Professor, you must be taking the Michael"

Oh. But you have "learned that you can learn ... etc.". Heaven preserve us! (From you, Professor!).

And, yes, let’s all do our best to clean up all these lies! How many convictions have you obtained from your ‘thermate’ hypothesis, Steven? All sown up is it? What a great job you’ve done! All sorted! All the perps in prison, thanks to you!

No? Well, isn’t that the implication of your last few sentences? How you tell us that "We're all on to them!". How 'they' had better watch their step! Eh, Steven?

No, Steven. Your prevaricating bullshit, DELIBERATELY guiding everyone away from the truth, is one of the reasons why 6 - nearly 7 years - on, no-one is in prison, and undoubtedly contributes to the reasons why we can actually expect another 9/11 ... "in an urban city, shall we say?".

Precisely because you have DELIBERATELY led everyone up the garden path, round the houses, and right up their own hind quarters.

Isn’t it, Prof. Los Alamos? Isn't that one of the reasons why there still exists a 'they ... who had better watch their step'?

You have achieved absolutely bugger-all - except to beguile a planet-full of decent, honest, genuine people down into a Black Hole of Oblivion.

And I hope you’re satisfied, Steven.

Is this the reason why we get those 'embarrassed little giggles' all the time? Why we get the 'embarrassed wipe across the brow for no apparent reason'? Steven: Your body language is BLATANT.

And your actions are DELIBERATE. Steven, no person on earth could be as stupid as you pretend to be. No-one! (Well, Kevin Barratt is a possible exception, I suppose). So your actions must be DELIBERATE, and that is why you are so embarrassed.

And why should you be so embarrassed, Prof. Los Alamos? Did you, at Los Alamos, work on the technology that brought down those Twin Towers? I know you have denied this, but (to paraphrase Mandy Rice-Davies) "You would, wouldn't you?".

What you have never explained, Prof. Los Alamos, is why you DELIBERATELY steer genuine people away from ALL the data that resulted from the demise of those Towers. You have never answered why you do that. But the fact that you do is something else that is UTTERLY BLATANT.

Meanwhile you prattle on as though everything were sweetness and light. (Just as long as they manage to post you the samples before being shot). You prattle on as though everyone should look to you as a Saviour. What, precisely, have you saved? (What, precisely, have you ever saved? Shall we ask Pons & Fleischmann about what you did in 1989?)

Thermate dunnit? No, Steven. That's totally impossible, utterly ridiculous, and you know it.

You tell us that the Towers 'swayed, under the impact of your planes'. You tell us there was 'oscillatory data'. How was that data collected, Steven? What device was (co-incidentally) in place to measure that 'oscillation' to the necessary accuracy? What kind of device can accurately measure 'oscillation of a tall building' while, at the same time, 'distinguishing it from oscillation of the device itself, due to groundshake'? (Groundshake caused by a large explosion. You know, as recorded on concurrent seismic data, Steven). What kind of device can accurately distinguish between a 'plane-impact oscillation' and one due to 'internal explosive devices'? Steven you emulate the politicians who 'fix facts around a policy'. In your case you 'fix facts around your ludicrous hypothesis'.

Tell me, Steven, just exactly what equipment was used for these so-called 'oscillatory measurements"? And how was it all set up in time? Stress gauges? Stress gauges measure stress, due to 'anything'. They do not measure 'stress which must be due to plane impacts'.

Or it this all "beyond the realm of human countenance", O Divine Alchemist?

Just what kind of 'scientist' are you, Steven?

Don't bother trying to answer that. I think the answer is pretty obvious.

Who are you protecting, Steven? Yourself? Someone else? Is that why you appeared from out of nowhere - in order to create 'damage-limitation'? And is that why you are so embarrassed about it?

I'm wrong, am I? This is libel, is it? (It isn't. It is just asking pertinent questions) Well, Steven, let's fight it out in court, then. Remember what happened when I challenged you to a genuine debate in the UK Forum? Remember how you slunk away, back to the complete safety of your crony-dominated 'Journal hidey-hole'? You didn't even put up any semblance of a fight, did you? E-mails prove it, Steven. E-mails prove it.

You proved that you do not have the guts to debate me. And critical analysis of the words out of your own mouth, in that video, shows you up better than I ever could.

Oh you are fine, you are a Knight in Shining Armour. A veritable godsend. PROVIDED YOU HAVE THE FLOOR ALL TO YOURSELF,  with no opposition in sight. As long as you can ignore any difficult questions, and only giggle-answer all the 'luvvy' ones.

Not true? OK, Steven, answer those pertinent questions above (Yes, you can ignore the sarcastic ones)

It's The Truth that sets people free, Steven, not your beguiling bullshit.

Powerbrain #1 (David Ray Griffin)?

All the "Truth Heroes" such as Jim Hoffman, Alex Jones, etc. fully support Prof. Vader (James Earl Jones = Voice of Darth Vader), whose lying is TOTALLY OBVIOUS to anyone with a modicum of critical thought, and utterly BLATANT. So, the only POSSIBLE conclusion? They are all in it together. No other conclusion fits the facts.

Powerbrains #1 & #2 are the "Inside Job", within the "Inside Job".

On the other hand congratulations, and heartfelt thanks, to socialservice, for producing 'September Clues', which explains the massive amount of evidence for the 9/11 TV Fakery, in excellent and very thorough detail.

And congratulations to Dr. Judy Wood (who you thoroughly insulted to her face, Steven), for having the guts to look at ALL the data, and not just cherry-pick those bits necessary to support the 9/11 hoax.

For interested parties, an overview of the No-Planes Position is here.

Veronica Chapman
25^th June, 2008

PS 'Smatterafac' I do have some letters after my name, however I am not in the slightest bit interested in 'protecting' them. Consequently this gives me the freedom to call bullshit bullshit.

PPS Quick Note to my Cointelpro Handlers: Please make all cheques out to "Cash". I'm not actually receiving them, so purleez check my address. I think you must have it wrong on your computer. And could we have a little bit extra to buy some batteries for the lights on Rosalee's bike? Thanks a lot.